Jigsaw: Madman or genius?

Fucking brilliant, I've always always loved his character. It's allot like a woman scorn, he sites imaginable things brought on by his grief. Pure brilliance, the forethought that goes into his torture devices. He takes his time, he implements himself somehow into each kill, but without lifting a hand. He essentially gives you the choice to survive or kill yourself. Some of his victims, were simply destined to fail to die. Either by actions they themselves brought on, or something worse. I love love love his methods I'm absolutely in love with the calculation, especially playing god. Will you live will you die.

I LOVE how he gives the person a choice. And that he also says the reasoning for why that person is the victim. Like the man who raped three women and then killed them. (From the 4th one)

Amanda's traps, on the other hand, are impossible to escape; even if they do what needs to be done in order to do so. [I hope that makes sense]
John Kramer is my absolute favorite. EVER. I hate it when people call him a serial killer. HE NEVER KILLS ANYONE.

EXACTLY he's sort of comparable to Charles Manson, in the sense that he's responsible for deaths. But not with his hands, with others, in this case even more powerful because he didn't just do what Manson did and have someone kill you. He has YOU KILL YOU lol yea I'm definitely with you here I love his character.